<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post2713755643671327212..comments</id><updated>2010-01-30T08:54:24.042+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on nothingmuch's perl blog: Are Filehandles Objects?</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://blog.woobling.org/feeds/2713755643671327212/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html'/><author><name>nothingmuch</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03975438115490089158</uri><email>nothingmuch@woobling.org</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-1676788357112689355</id><published>2010-01-30T08:54:24.042+02:00</published><updated>2010-01-30T08:54:24.042+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Just a heads up: perl 5.11.3 (and .4 obviously) br...</title><content type='html'>Just a heads up: perl 5.11.3 (and .4 obviously) broke this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://gist.github.com/290443 This test work on 5.8, 5.10 and 5.11.2 but fails on 5.11.3. I just brought it up on #p5p to see whether this is an intended bug incompatibilities...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/1676788357112689355'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/1676788357112689355'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html?showComment=1264834464042#c1676788357112689355' title=''/><author><name>miyagawa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06065263832285281276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-2713755643671327212' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/posts/default/2713755643671327212' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-8316869955381730281</id><published>2009-10-06T12:18:18.340+02:00</published><updated>2009-10-06T12:18:18.340+02:00</updated><title type='text'>You are right about your suspicion that there is a...</title><content type='html'>You are right about your suspicion that there is a special case that prevents the refcount increment if the object is tied to itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At least for globs this is true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This has been changed several times in the Perl core, but was eventually kept despite its kludgeness (as you call it rightly, &amp;quot;a horrible cascade of kludges&amp;quot;) because there were modules such as e.g. Data::Locations which depend on it (and which stopped working several times after such changes to the core).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At that time the Perl 5 Porters even wondered who would ever want self-tied globs and what for, but you have precisely shown why: to allow the builtin syntax AND the method syntax to both work.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/8316869955381730281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/8316869955381730281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html?showComment=1254824298340#c8316869955381730281' title=''/><author><name>ostbey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07216378694196799621</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-2713755643671327212' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/posts/default/2713755643671327212' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-7693512032253323073</id><published>2009-10-05T18:19:21.954+02:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T18:19:21.954+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Yeah it looks and feels like one, but it isn't... ...</title><content type='html'>Yeah it looks and feels like one, but it isn&amp;#39;t... See &lt;a href="http://gist.github.com/202221" rel="nofollow"&gt;this optree dump&lt;/a&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/7693512032253323073'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/7693512032253323073'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html?showComment=1254759561954#c7693512032253323073' title=''/><author><name>nothingmuch</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03975438115490089158</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04344917020781355723'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-2713755643671327212' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/posts/default/2713755643671327212' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-1965993482889437236</id><published>2009-10-05T17:37:58.309+02:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T17:37:58.309+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Interesting. I have always thought that print $fh ...</title><content type='html'>Interesting. I have always thought that &lt;b&gt;print $fh $string&lt;/b&gt; is interpreted as an indirect object notation of method call rather than built-in function call.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/1965993482889437236'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/2713755643671327212/comments/default/1965993482889437236'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html?showComment=1254757078309#c1965993482889437236' title=''/><author><name>kappa</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10283564172364338483</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.woobling.org/2009/10/are-filehandles-objects.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-876358347971598886.post-2713755643671327212' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/876358347971598886/posts/default/2713755643671327212' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>